What's so special in this lot?

nikko · Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Posts: 223 Location: San Francisco, CA

RARE Intel C4004 CPU White ceramic 4004 gold 7 ic
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8758346378
Current bid: US $2,025.00 ( 4 days 19 hours left)

I don't see anything special... why is this so expensive?

JAC · Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 3469

talked about here and in some other threads

http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3001

$5000 offered. greedy barstool! lol

skold · Joined: 30 Nov 2003 Posts: 960 Location: Canada

i dont know what a 'complete 4004 set' includes, but it looks like he has a lot of the chips from such a set in his pictures, so whoevers bidding may be getting a (nearly?) complete set, which is worth a lot more than one chip..

sammyc · Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 1668 Location: Scottish Borders

the 4003-1 Plus the fact they are in mint condition

nikko · Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Posts: 223 Location: San Francisco, CA

there is no C4003-1 BTW.. onylt C4002-1 or C4003.. which one is more rare?

sammyc · Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 1668 Location: Scottish Borders

cant rememebr, Lee was telling me about it.

gmanbc · Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 513 Location: Korea

Hey guys,
The reason the auction is such a big deal is because of the grey C4003s which are worth almost as much as a grey C4004. A complete MCS-4 set is comprised of five chips (C4001, C4002-1, C4002-2, C4003, and a C4004).

Mats from the CPU-Zone has this laid out better than anyone on his site: http://www.cpu-zone.com/4004.htm Notice at the bottom of the link he has four sets laid out but only the white set with no groundstrap is complete. Notice also that he is missing the grey C4002-2 and grey C4003.

The grey C4002-2 is the rarest of all of these chips with only one known to exist. Same holds true with the white C4003 #5 with groundstrap.

I don't beleive that Intel made a complete MCS-4 set in the "D" version package as I have never seen a D4001 or a D4003 and that is why you don't see that laid out in Mats collection.

I only know of 4 people to have a complete MCS-4 set in any package type so this is truly the Holy Grail of collecting(at least for Intel).

Lee

gmanbc · Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 513 Location: Korea

I guess that link isn't working to Mats site. You can still see it if you go to his site and then click on his C4004 link. Or you can go to my site and see how I have it laid out: http://www.theintelcollection.com/MCS-4%20Set.htm

Lee

Cpuswe · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:19 am Post subject:

gmanbc · Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 513 Location: Korea

I just removed the period. I should have noticed that Laughing

nikko · Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Posts: 223 Location: San Francisco, CA

Now two bidders retracted their bids... I don't know what's going on now. They have a mutual agreement or something?

CPUShack · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject:

seller appears to be shill bidding, so people are backing out.

sammyc · Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 1668 Location: Scottish Borders

bastard

report him to Ebay so he gets banned.

I HATE shill bidding, it annoys me so much!

gmanbc · Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 513 Location: Korea

Yeah,
He was shill bidding... I have it from a good authority that he has already offered a second chance offer Rolling Eyes

He got greedy and now he will only get about half of what he could have gotten. Very Happy

Lee

metalmaker · Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 161 Location: St. Louis, MO, USA

So what was the clue that he was shill bidding? I looked at the winning bidder feedback vs seller feedback and am trying to see the relationship.

MM

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