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LZF7000
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frag_
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like not ES.
Any normal A64 can be set to lower multiplier down to x4.
And something is clearly bugged in detection software - different CPUIDs, families, etc. |
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debs3759

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 9477 Location: Northampton, Divided Kingdom
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frag_
Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 4015 Location: Estonia
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Oops, somehow I read "AR" instead of "AP"!  |
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Antinomy
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Well, considering the Powernow! it might be a fake but it's still an ES
Faking the ES identified by software isn't that easy. And there are board that work with mobile correctly. |
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LZF7000
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:04 pm Post subject: THIS IS ES , NOT MOBILE CPU . |
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THIS IS ES Engineering SAMPLE ,
NOT MOBILE VERSION CPU . |
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mavroxur

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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess i'm not seeing how random Ath 64 pictures support the argument. |
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xsecret

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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:59 am Post subject: |
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It's not a fake. Just a genuine commercial CPU with a BIOS unable to recognize it properly.
The trick here comes from the PSN (Processor String Name). On Intel CPUs, that value is hard-fused within the CPUID and it's a read-only parameter. On AMD K8, the CPU comes with a blank PSN and the BIOS set it at boot on a write-once register. So, you can basically put anything you want inside. If the BIOS doesn't detect the CPU, AMD BIOS Writer's Guide ask to set "AMD Engineering Sample". _________________ ES-Only Collector : http://www.engineering-sample.com
Universal Chip Analyzer (UCA) : https://x86.fr/uca / http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34349 |
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frag_
Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 4015 Location: Estonia
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:28 am Post subject: |
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But still data matrix code mismatch is very strange.
Amd mistake? |
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xsecret

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Neon

Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 1512 Location: Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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I bought one of these. It does not POST in my motherboard, as it always halts with POST code C1, memory error. The seller insists that it was tested working.
The datamatrix does not match, whereas other contemporary socket 754 processors have datamatrices that match. Therefore, it seems likely that this is a fake.
The processor was returned for refund. |
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gshv

Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 7898 Location: Fairfax, VA USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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A few things I noticed about this chip:
AMD used bolder font for uppercase letters in the first line. The AMD logo should be bolder too. AMD copyright used slightly different font, where "D" letter was more narrow.
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Neon

Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 1512 Location: Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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I just realized another glaring error:
The two 9's in the serial number have completely different font.
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frag_
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:45 am Post subject: |
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5's are different too. |
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debs3759

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 9477 Location: Northampton, Divided Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:17 am Post subject: |
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It's not just the "9" and "5", it's all the last 6 digits on the last line that have a different font  _________________ My graphics card database can be found at http://www.gpuzoo.com.
I can resist anything except temptation.
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