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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:20 pm    Post subject: Motorola DIP chips Reply with quote

I have this chips and i cant find what they are..Any ideea?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, and cant ID a valid mask code on them either
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPUShack wrote:
Nope, and cant ID a valid mask code on them either



i love Motorola for their chips & CPUs but also hate them .. i think Motorola is the world champion by the number of unidentifiable chips Sad

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i remove the cap to take a die shot, is there any way after that to stick it back ?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lids are just soldered there, so with some clever soldering you should get them back on well enough. I haven't tested that, though, and it may not look like it was before opening.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'll try.. i have 2 pcs.. i think they are both the same thing... even if i'll break one, i'll have the other Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just lay some blade on the chip on ground strip ready to get under the lid and heat with heat gun or torch until you can push your blade under the lid. You shouldn't scratch or break anything if you keep tip of that blade well on other side of the chip and don't let your blade lift on the lid to scratch it. As long as tip of blade is well on other side there isn't anything that could get into the die cavity to damage die or bond wires.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Birdman. wrote:
Just lay some blade on the chip on ground strip ready to get under the lid and heat with heat gun or torch until you can push your blade under the lid. You shouldn't scratch or break anything if you keep tip of that blade well on other side of the chip and don't let your blade lift on the lid to scratch it. As long as tip of blade is well on other side there isn't anything that could get into the die cavity to damage die or bond wires.


thank you
tomorrow i'll try

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thic picture can help?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, looks familiar http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/680x/die/L_Motorola-MC6803.jpg

That's MC6803 or MC6805 microcontroller then with custom markings due to program written permanently in mask ROM.

I have also opened one and it's waiting for time at the scope. I might be interested in taking better pic of this one if my one is different smaller revision.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you..
i'll try to make better pictures (i'll try at local university)

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