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zburget



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xsecret wrote:
The good old fake Q140 is back on eBay. Now with massive qty Smile

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131513682817?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Seller exchanged photo at this listing. Marking looks quite genuine.
If is this fake, it's relatively well-done fake.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zburget wrote:
xsecret wrote:
The good old fake Q140 is back on eBay. Now with massive qty Smile

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131513682817?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Seller exchanged photo at this listing. Marking looks quite genuine.
If is this fake, it's relatively well-done fake.

It should be fake too - no ES after q-spec.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I think this is a fake too. Here is mine:
http://www.smithschips.com.au/Images/PentiumMMX/FV80503233Q140-bot-LG.jpg

Note the ES on mine, which is not on the listing one, plus on production FV Pentiums the voltage "V" is approx. under the "2" like his, whereas the Q ES have the "V" closer to the last digit. And what are the chances of having 10+ ES for sale...

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks genuine.

Did you try to decode the datamatrix ?

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks genuine but the price is too expensive for this type ES.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:53 pm    Post subject: Fake FPU Reply with quote

Not a CPU, but I thought I should mention it here anyway.

Ebay seller: adeleparts2010

Purchased a MC68882FN16A, a Motorola FPU, supposedly as NOS, when I went to plug it into the system, my system totally freaked out when I tried to turn it on again, and the chip got so hot you could practically fry an egg on it. I popped the chip out as fast as I could. powered the system back up, and luckily it was not damaged.

Unfortunately, once I gave it some scrutiny, it was clearly a fake. The Motorola symbol that was being used was wrong. It wasn't used by Motorola during that time period. The part numbering, aside from the main identifier were odd compared to known authentic examples. When looked at closely the printing on the chip was also not clear, it was blurry, which I have never seen on a production Motorola chip from that era.

I subsequently purchased another MC68882FN16A from a very reputable seller, plugged it in, and it worked just as expected and my system was perfectly happy, so I know it was not the system.

Lesson learned. Buyer beware.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adeleparts2010 is a fairly well known counterfeit vendor

Many parts are "refurbished", but sold as new. The tops are sanded off, blacktopped and re-marked.

They do sometimes work but are often remarked with a higher speed or different manufacturing process (eg cmos version is really nmos part).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-D8008-1-Integrated-Circuits-CDIP18/253615357537

these are very fake 8008-1s
THey are remarked Intel 8284As
A member here got one and opened it

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPUShack wrote:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-D8008-1-Integrated-Circuits-CDIP18/253615357537

these are very fake 8008-1s
THey are remarked Intel 8284As
A member here got one and opened it

Funny is that noone left a negative feedback or even neutral. Everyone are happy and sing a song Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Half the feedback probably fake, and once ya get enough of it, eBay will happily remove neg for you
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPUShack wrote:
Half the feedback probably fake, and once ya get enough of it, eBay will happily remove neg for you

Bad practics ... now I sold item to US for 110 EUR and eBay took 11 EUR, PayPal took ~ 8 EUR + additional tax charged by PayPal another 9 EUR. Total is 28 EUR fees what gives ~ 25% of final item value. I'm finishing selling to US sorry but that fees are ridicilous.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we need an EU-based warehouse for AVICC... Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect most folks don't (or can't) test an 8008 and just wanted it for display.

Or by the time they've found out it is a fake they've already posted their positive feedback.

They're also very fast to refund if you make a claim.

Wonder if their 8284A's are legit, they also look remarked.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-D8284A-CPU-System-Clock-Generator-DIP-18/253587177730?hash=item3b0af94102:g:4QcAAOSwHdVa4skU

Marcin wrote:
CPUShack wrote:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-D8008-1-Integrated-Circuits-CDIP18/253615357537

these are very fake 8008-1s
THey are remarked Intel 8284As
A member here got one and opened it

Funny is that noone left a negative feedback or even neutral. Everyone are happy and sing a song Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remarked form 8008-1s haha
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stranger things have happened...

For years I shopped in a small electronics locally. They had 4 2A3 vacuum tubes up on the shelf in "International" boxes. International is a well known re-brander and I always assumed they'd be Chinese junk. One day I was bored and pulled them down. Three of the four were single plate RCA etched based 2A3's. Each had been re-printed with International's logo on the glass and the bases wrapped in black tape to hide the etching.

Sort of the equivalent of finding a 4004ES remarked as a P4004 Smile

CPUShack wrote:
Remarked form 8008-1s haha
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