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CHips

Joined: 01 May 2016 Posts: 834 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Or Intel just wanting to troll collectors :p ? _________________ Stelo.xyz Museum (CPU Collection and more) |
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34258 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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karman
Joined: 10 Aug 2017 Posts: 294 Location: Spain
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Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| 100k is too large quantity just for the lol or mechanical samples... |
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CHips

Joined: 01 May 2016 Posts: 834 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Still nobody tried to make a Die Shot?
Looks like everyone forgot about this chip now... _________________ Stelo.xyz Museum (CPU Collection and more) |
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crazybubba64

Joined: 03 Jul 2018 Posts: 1371 Location: WI, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| CHips wrote: | Still nobody tried to make a Die Shot?
Looks like everyone forgot about this chip now... |
I imagine there's a bunch sitting in people's boxes still at AVICC.
Also, isn't it fairly difficult to get good die-shots of flip-chip packages? _________________ My collection |
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Birdman.

Joined: 13 Nov 2012 Posts: 833 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| Fritz took die shot of SoMa https://www.flickr.com/photos/130561288@N04/ so we can see inside those. Seems to be something with 8x8x4 cores on one die that really is just four dies together cut out of wafer as one piece. Those cores seem to have transistor standard cells, so not really possible to know more about them. Then there's some simple I/O bus and PLL common for one group of 64 cores. Maybe those are some custom cores for crypto mining or other highly parallel special task, but seems to be 1024 cores in one package with four dies. |
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max1024

Joined: 15 Jan 2015 Posts: 636 Location: Belarus
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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It seems to me that the photo does not have processor architecture at all? |
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xsecret

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1846 Location: France
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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As expected, that looks like mostly passive to me. Big resistor array, couple transistors and nothing fancy. That’s really close to a terminator IC for some bus that requires a final resistor on the chain (like memory). But it seems to be a (very) basic support chip and not a super-secret unknown CPU architecture. I still have doubt this has been manufactured by Intel, only packaged. _________________ ES-Only Collector : http://www.engineering-sample.com
Universal Chip Analyzer (UCA) : https://x86.fr/uca / http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34349 |
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i440bx

Joined: 30 May 2004 Posts: 1349 Location: Germany
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i440bx

Joined: 30 May 2004 Posts: 1349 Location: Germany
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gg1978

Joined: 31 Jul 2012 Posts: 1052 Location: Indiana, USA
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gg1978

Joined: 31 Jul 2012 Posts: 1052 Location: Indiana, USA
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oldirdey
Joined: 27 Nov 2010 Posts: 19
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:30 am Post subject: |
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special heatspreader for a special cpu  |
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mavroxur

Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 1192 Location: Wichita Falls, TX
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| max1024 wrote: | Looking at these photos, I do not think that this is a finished product that can work.
https://imgur.com/a/Ea4x0bJ
Not a single capacitor. Strange.. |
I don't necessarily think a lack of capacitors means it's fake. There's not even unpopulated spaces to put capacitors. From the bottom picture, it's complete. No caps because there's no pads. |
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Binary_Nexus

Joined: 26 Dec 2023 Posts: 25 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2025 6:50 am Post subject: |
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About a year or so ago I did some electrical testing on the pads of a SoMa to see what the connections were like and this is what I found.
Blue is almost certainly VSS/GND and green is probably VCC/PWR
The other colours were just other tests and I didn't get around to fully testing those, but there's some resistance between them.
I don't believe that these were mechanical samples.
Also, if you look very closely around the pads with a strong light on them, you'll notice very faint outlines around groups of pads, corresponding to pads that are connected together directly. |
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