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OrBit

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 245 Location: P.R.C
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:11 am Post subject: How to light up the Pentium-50? |
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Hey Gentlemen:
Before that, I was not sure whether the Q0335 was a pentium-50. I couldn't light it on the Pentium 60/66 motherboard, and I knew that the motherboard that can support 50MHz was also very difficult to find.
Recently, I suddenly got a great idea. Maybe I can adjust the motherboard to the operating frequency of 50MHz by changing the crystal, so that I can verify whether it is a real pentium-50
So I bought a bunch of crystals to complete this test. The results are satisfactory, so I would like to share the test process with you.
Some of the crystals:
Q0335 with the 50Mhz crystal.
Screenshot of the testing
Q0335 with the 33Mhz crystal.
Screenshot of the testing
So, can Q0335 support lower frequency? Unfortunately, it doesn't light up at 25MHz.
Result:
Pentium-50(Q0335) 25Mhz Fail, 33Mhz OK,50Mhz OK, 60Mhz Fail, 66Mhz Fail
Pentium-66(SX950) 25Mhz Fail, 33Mhz OK,50Mhz OK,60Mhz OK, 66Mhz OK
Any comment will be appreciated
Henry _________________ Webmaster of China Collector's Site
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My collections:
www.cpu-cn.com/EN/Collectors1.asp?userid=Henry
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OrBit

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 245 Location: P.R.C
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Since the crystal can be replaced to reduce the frequency, I would like to know what is the lowest running frequency of my 386 motherboard? 16Mhz? 12Mhz? Or lower?
Yes! I got the 0.946Mhz record.
I believe it should be the 386 CPU running at the lowest frequency in the world. but I still have reason to believe that 0.5MHz should be the lowest frequency it can work.
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xsecret

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1847 Location: France
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gekaufman
Joined: 08 Dec 2014 Posts: 385 Location: New Hampshire, USA
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| I believe the AMD 80386 can be varied all the way from 0 to their rated speed, so if you really want to go slow, go AMD! |
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xsecret

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1847 Location: France
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Alitoutou
Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Posts: 412 Location: Shanghai China
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Well done. I've been looking for socket4 mainboard that supports 50Mhz for years.Nothing gain. _________________ day day up!
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xi11west

Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 1526 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Very nice! |
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frag_
Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 4015 Location: Estonia
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Cool!
It has relatively narrow working frequency window.
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The real issue is not the CPU but the ISA bus (and especially the VGA card plugged in). Very few of them use static design (with frequency down to DC). |
But all VGA cards use onboard clock generation, ISA bus frequency signals are irrelevant.
Or do you mean they would not like prolonged memory and i/o cycles? That's possible but still would be surprising.
After initialization you can yank VGA card out and it would still work as long as power is provided. |
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Neology

Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 2412 Location: VIC, AU
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome finding.
Btw, What socket 4 motherboard do you use to test the P50? _________________ Want List
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bccwchan

Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 2585 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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Unbelievable testing.
Good job!!! |
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xiaoyanxu

Joined: 23 Apr 2011 Posts: 1029 Location: China
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I want to know how it feels to run windows95 on Pentium-50 (Q0335). |
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bccwchan

Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 2585 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| xiaoyanxu wrote: | | I want to know how it feels to run windows95 on Pentium-50 (Q0335). |
Extremely Exciting!!! |
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OrBit

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 245 Location: P.R.C
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| xsecret wrote: | What was the original frequency of the crystal on the 386 board ?
PS : Very nice Pentium 50! (The very first P5 ES was clocked at 40 MHz ) |
Original frequency is running at 33Mhz of this 386 board. _________________ Webmaster of China Collector's Site
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OrBit

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 245 Location: P.R.C
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Do you want to know the lowest running frequency of 80486 CPU? Today I will continue to test.
The final result :
A80486DX33 8Mhz OK
A80486SX20 0.996Mhz OK (world record of lowest I believe)
Replace to 1Mhz crystal:
It took more than 30 minutes for the system to start and complete DOS startup, which was the longest waiting.
The ISA 3486 II motherboard set show (32M Ram+TVGA8900D+XTIDE):
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xsecret

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1847 Location: France
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