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jd



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: ...a P4 discussion... Reply with quote

An earlier topic on P4's reminded me of something interesting that I thought could be a good idea to reduce the heat on a P4 chip...I'll use my usual P4 3.06gb for exemple VS the M P4 1700 or AMD Athlon 1700


...If one were to remove that ridiculous headspreader off of the P4 3.06 , wouldn't help to release that trapped heat from there ?
Cause I know for sure , that headspreader must be keeping some of that heat trapped under there...
With the removal of the heatspreader, I'm sure you'd see a significant difference in temps, knocking it down by 5'C to 10'C...this would be a BIG thing for the ES one because the overclocking ability is allready fanominal, imagine knocking down the heat a little more !!!




In the pictures we see the P4 3.06 and the AMD 1700. There's a big difference with heat dissapation here...I think Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: ...a P4 discussion... Reply with quote

Use watercooling and you won't lost the guarantee. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant without forking a $1000 oversized car rad in my Shuttle XPC !!!




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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have any pictures of a P4 with the metal cap off?

JD, that metal cap conducts heat pretty well Wink I dont think anything gets trapped.

How many crushed P4 cores have you heard of? - none I bet.

How many crushed cores do you get with the AMD? - plenty.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="JAC"]Does anyone have any pictures of a P4 with the metal cap off?

JD, that metal cap conducts heat pretty well Wink I dont think anything gets trapped.

-------> I do think heat gets trapped ! That cap is like an greenhouse ! There's space between the core and the cap that gets filled with heat !




How many crushed P4 cores have you heard of? - none I bet.

-----> crushed, no...Scortch, yes ! Wink


How many crushed cores do you get with the AMD? - plenty

----->Crushed yes, for the individual who excersies to much feakin' pressure on them, and don't know how to place a cooler on properly Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might be of interest?

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=3878&s=1


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPUSWE

Wow ! That was very interesting, and I got your answer !!!
Thank you very much for going 3/4 of the way for me Very Happy

The answer to the rest of the removal would be to do this:

------> #1 After the first removal of the surrounding soulder, carefull pry up the cap so that it doesn't fall back on to the soulder again.

------>#2 Take a tool , like the rotozip. Cut around ,as close to the core as possible ! Leaving only the remaining cap, around the core to be removed...BUT WAIT !!!!........

------>#3 ... this is the kicker ! Leave the remaining cap over the core !!! It will replicate a "AMD" type core, without running into the risk of destroying it Very Happy

This should work nicely and definatly improve heat control for overclocking icon_dance .sooooooooo happy !!!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.overclockers.com/tips1087/index.asp



For a few degrees difference... and you are left with a trashed cpu Wink I actually underclock to have my system run silently.
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