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CPUbar

Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 238 Location: P.R.China
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:54 am Post subject: Is this an Intel Pentium engineering sample ??? |
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I get this chip today. Anyone know it ,please tell me . _________________ CPUbar |
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tlccomp

Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 1212 Location: Southeast Wisconsin, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Strange.... none of the numbers make sense.
Fake, remark or both?
Wafer/die date on the bottom compared to the numbers on the top?
sSpec with 4 digits, "Q056"?
Looking closely the numbers/letters are different. Size/font?
It's also a common production chip, Pentium 166,
SY016 with the "IPP" stamp.  |
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CPUbar

Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 238 Location: P.R.China
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:20 am Post subject: |
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I look it carefuly, and it does not like fake or remake.
All the letter on it are very cleanly.
I think the Initial "Q" is an engineering sample mark. _________________ CPUbar |
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JAC

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 3469
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: |
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The "i" is missing. They layout of the text is not normal.
You can clearly see the etching/engraving is different between the "Q056 1429" and the markings below it.
I would expect it to look like this..
Without more information I would say that is a "fake" remarking. The qspec has been put on to try add value. |
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JAC

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 3469
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: |
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here is a normal SY016
Notice the layout looks the same as the suspect fake, apart from the extra ICOMP text.
here is another normal SY016

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JAC

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 3469
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Now we begin to see $1 chips being turned into $100+ items.  |
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CPUbar

Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 238 Location: P.R.China
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:07 am Post subject: |
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I am sure the "Q" is making below another letters, but why ?
They do not exchange the speed but making this . I wonder!!! _________________ CPUbar |
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Cpuswe

Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 2214 Location: Karlskrona, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| JAC wrote: | Now we begin to see $1 chips being turned into $100+ items.  |
Yupp, its not a matter of "if" but when. Anyone with a laser engraver or even just some printing skills can etch "ES" on a chip. _________________ My collection: http://www.cpucollection.se :::::: http://www.chipdb.org Photos of chips you never knew existed. Now over 6000 different chips in the database. |
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debs3759

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 9477 Location: Northampton, Divided Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:01 am Post subject: |
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I say it's a fake due to the change of font used for the"Q056" line, with the letters having a very different lok to them. _________________ My graphics card database can be found at http://www.gpuzoo.com.
I can resist anything except temptation.
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Cpuswe

Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 2214 Location: Karlskrona, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Would this be the first chip known to be faked for collecting reasons then or why else??? _________________ My collection: http://www.cpucollection.se :::::: http://www.chipdb.org Photos of chips you never knew existed. Now over 6000 different chips in the database. |
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CPUbar

Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 238 Location: P.R.China
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:29 am Post subject: |
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I hate fake chips and never collect them.  _________________ CPUbar |
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Marcin

Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 8519 Location: Poland
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Can be very early fake of Pentium 150. All prints looks like fake. Maybe it was to early to sale Pentium 166 and that's why someone tried to make ES. _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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CPUbar

Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 238 Location: P.R.China
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:55 am Post subject: |
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More detail about this chip.  _________________ CPUbar |
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JAC

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 3469
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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I am convinced that is a fake remarking.
I havent seen Intel es/qs with variations in the engraving. I suspect this might be a recent fake, one for collectors. |
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CPUbar

Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 238 Location: P.R.China
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| JAC wrote: | I am convinced that is a fake remarking.
I havent seen Intel es/qs with variations in the engraving. I suspect this might be a recent fake, one for collectors. |
That is impossible for collectors. Because I found it from hundred of pentium chips. _________________ CPUbar |
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