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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: Latest ebay rip off Reply with quote

They now want final value fees to include shipping.

It was only a matter of time Sad

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean?

I think for seller-fault refunds (IE wrong item, misstated, sold as working and arriving broken) the seller should pay for all expenses Razz
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wizzard1 wrote:
What do you mean?

I think for seller-fault refunds (IE wrong item, misstated, sold as working and arriving broken) the seller should pay for all expenses Razz



No they are now going to charge the 10% final fee to include shipping.

They are starting doing it by reducing the fees if you offer 'free' shipping.

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess you are referring to the following:

http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200805.shtml#2008-05-22170559

Now, have you heard something more or is your original comment just your interpretation of it?
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad =EBAY
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes =Buyers

Shocked Shocked Shocked Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad = SELLERS (us)
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

donutty wrote:
I guess you are referring to the following:

http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200805.shtml#2008-05-22170559

Now, have you heard something more or is your original comment just your interpretation of it?


Exactly, no reading into it needed, their goal is very clear.
They want more $$

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnorun wrote:
Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad =EBAY
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes =Buyers

Shocked Shocked Shocked Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad = SELLERS (us)


IMHO you statement is not fully correct. I'm mostly a buyer but I'm piss**d by the new changes!

- Are the masked bidder IDs good for the byuers?
- Who pays all these eBay and PP fees in the end? - (answer - the buyers)
- Many serious sellers already left eBay and many others will follow soon. Where should I buy all the precioussss thingsssss??? Sad

I think this image is more fitting.

Dancing Laughing icon_drunk = EBAY
Liar Liar Liar= BUYERS
icon_chainsaw Brick wall = SELLERS


In Germany we have another thrilling improvement.

Now eBay dictates how much fees the sellers are allowed to charge for shipping and handling!
IMHO if a seller demands EUR 100.00 S/H fees for a tiny item with EUR 1.00 starting price it's not correct and should be prevented.
But the limitations set by eBay are insane!

Here is the link for german speaking forum members.
To all non-german speaking members - try to read and understand the text, because you will get these limitations very soon.
http://pages.ebay.de/help/sell/maximum_shippingcosts.html


How I am supposed to pack and ship a big tower PC case for only EUR 8.00 ??? Should I take used toiled paper as a padding material?

The other maximum shipping costs are idiotic too.
Ebay started to enforce PayPal in Germany. If a buyer pays with PP the seller must send the item as an insured parcel with online tracking. These shipping methods cost more than allowed by eBay. Evil or Very Mad

Now the seller has two choices to make:
- To ship the item as an uninsured letter / parcel and wait for a PP chargeback. Sad
- To set the item's price higher in order to cover his/her shipping expenses - and pay more eBay fees. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPUShack wrote:
No they are now going to charge the 10% final fee to include shipping.

They are starting doing it by reducing the fees if you offer 'free' shipping.

What % was before ? You guys have bad luck to be borned in eBay's countries. What a stupid monopoly company.

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sgt. Hartman should have a takeover on this...

Seriously, Ebay made a huge mistake. But why are they so suicidal? Are they taking it on sellers that make a living out of ebay (people that'll stick anyway) or what?

In Italy almost everyone is starting to really hate PP (pay pimp), it just isn't satisfying.


It started good, until they made money.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ebay made too many major "mistakes" last time. They can't be so stupid!

IMHO eBay will really commit suicide. I think somebody from eBay executive floor want to earn some additonal money by manipulating the stock prices. Wink Because of the recent "improvements" the stock price will fall very soon. When the prices are low enough he or she will buy a controlling stake and will try to reverse all these recent idiotic changes. I can't find another explantation of eBay's ill behavior.

But what will happen if eBay won't survive this game?

I've found this really interesting thread:
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=2000548282&tstart=0&mod=1207816447957
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