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smithy

Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 2906 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: Is the financial crisis affecting chip prices? |
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I'm not sure, but I just picked up this 4004 (which looks in good condition) for only EUR157. Maybe the coming weeks/months will be good for us chip collectors!
Here is the link to the item:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250305043149 |
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Windmiller

Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 1716 Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Is the financial crisis affecting chip prices? |
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I think it is a combination fo things. There is one thing I think that is happening. I honestly dont think there are that many chips collectors and I think many are filling large portions of there collections and are reaching points where they dont buy as many chips. |
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el_gecko

Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 1553 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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I may be wrong but this chip seems relabeled, isn't it? I don't recognize the font...
If not, it's a very good deal  _________________ My microprocessor collection: The Gecko's CPU Library |
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smithy

Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 2906 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| el_gecko wrote: | I may be wrong but this chip seems relabeled, isn't it? I don't recognize the font...
If not, it's a very good deal  |
I hope not - but can anyone give me a positive view on whether it is a fake? |
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hugo929

Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 6163 Location: China
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smithy

Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 2906 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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He has either come across a bunch of these or has a printing machine working overtime... |
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Chiefish

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 2153 Location: Northwest N.J. U.S.A
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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I watched those end as well, i thought the c4004 went cheap and the d4004 went high, I thought the c4004 looked super clean for the print to be a bit scuffed up tho, Of course i have no idea if its genuine or not. _________________ "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." A.E. |
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hugo929

Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 6163 Location: China
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| smithy wrote: |
He has either come across a bunch of these or has a printing machine working overtime... |
They are the same thing!
I guess the previous winner canceled this trade due to some reason. _________________ My vintage CPU collection:www.cpumuseum.com
Chinese Forum: http://www.cpumuseum.com/forum |
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hugo929

Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 6163 Location: China
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Chiefish wrote: | | I watched those end as well, i thought the c4004 went cheap and the d4004 went high, I thought the c4004 looked super clean for the print to be a bit scuffed up tho, Of course i have no idea if its genuine or not. |
I had seen P4004 ended with more than 150usd, now this time only 36usd. _________________ My vintage CPU collection:www.cpumuseum.com
Chinese Forum: http://www.cpumuseum.com/forum |
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naked1300

Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 837 Location: Austria,
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Is the financial crisis affecting chip prices? |
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i asked this seller if this C4004 was socked or solderd, and he told me
it was soldered. maybe it´s that the reason of the low price. i will not pay 157 euro for a soldered 4004. _________________ INTEL CPU´s, Peripheral,Ram,Eprom... & many Datasheets @ www.cpu-galaxy.at |
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el_gecko

Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 1553 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| smithy wrote: | | el_gecko wrote: | I may be wrong but this chip seems relabeled, isn't it? I don't recognize the font...
If not, it's a very good deal  |
I hope not - but can anyone give me a positive view on whether it is a fake? |
Note a relabeled/refurbished chip is not a fake chip
But if the seller didn't explain the chip was desoldered, it's a shame. _________________ My microprocessor collection: The Gecko's CPU Library |
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johnorun

Joined: 04 Apr 2008 Posts: 3364 Location: Chicago, IL- US
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| el_gecko wrote: | I may be wrong but this chip seems relabeled, isn't it? I don't recognize the font...
If not, it's a very good deal  |
I think it's a FAKE!
Look at the bottom---does it say made in Shanghai?
Actually, many C4004 whites have sold for around 200-300$ and this one was over 200$, not a bad deal.
Now ,...if I could only find that C4004 Gray for $200......  |
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smithy

Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 2906 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| If I had known it was desoldered, I doubt I would have bid. Learnt a lesson - ask the seller lots of questions or don't bid! Also was a bit sneaky of him not to show a photo of the legs. |
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johnorun

Joined: 04 Apr 2008 Posts: 3364 Location: Chicago, IL- US
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| smithy wrote: | | If I had known it was desoldered, I doubt I would have bid. Learnt a lesson - ask the seller lots of questions or don't bid! Also was a bit sneaky of him not to show a photo of the legs. |
I agree--very sneaky, IMO.
I always state if a chip is desoldered and show a full photo of it. |
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wepwawet

Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 3019 Location: Seligenstadt - Germany
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: |
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is "anja" a new chipcollector or fenrich's girlfriend? lol
She bought more from him in the past _________________ You may use the photos I have posted here under CC BY-NC-SA license. |
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